Loin de moi l'idee d'une guerre entre 'totoriens' et 'tutubiens'
A propos du classic 16, voila une interview du createur du classic 16, traduite par norman de coemaudio, pr ceux que ca interesse; ici LI est le journaliste et To le concepteur du classic - c'est un peu touffus comme propos. Mais ca donne une idee du mode de pensee de nos freres en Hifi de la bas...
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About acoustic and music dialogue
-- Visits "the feather business electroacoustics" Mr. Yu Jianbing
"Seeing and hearing Technology" 2000.4 "Li Peng unfolds the interview transcription"
Li:When is the Beijing featherbusiness electroacoustics company founded? What is the maiden work product?
To: The company had been established May, 1999. The first section product is merges the type transistor merit to put No 6.4.
Li: As the designer, what is your design idea?
To: Speaks of the design idea, actually this matter very complex, involves the surface is very wide. Because, electroacoustical this thing and technical art all concerns the department, the technology belongs to the natural sciences, art is the social sciences, is two disciplines. Has the technology or only has art all is only not good. Then, my design idea should say is 11 based on technical above art, or, based on the artistic above technology, and hoped they can mutually fuse, achieve one kind of perfect boundary.
Li: Then, you are correct the product sound take what as the reference point?
To: The reference point is the real sound. May say this has already become the instinct, listens to by reason of the instinct to be allowed to conclude and to remember the sound. This will be the day after tomorrow, will not be any congenital, almost specialized will do the music the people all will be allowed. But, some time design products also must consider some other aspects the factor.
Li: For instance said?
To: Populace's esthetic tendency. The product is a commodity, is must sell, you must consider whether the majority person does like. Is narcissistic was equal to is divorceds from the masses, that how line? Is not?
How said? Says regarding this time, can truly realize the simple sincere person already more and more were few. The time has changed, the people pay great attention to the change, the attenion are novel, the pursue stimulate. Perhaps beautifully makes up can attract more vision. If the virtuous young woman, surely has the education, has the connotation, you slowly sip the coffee, the picture are reading a thick big book to be same, reads her innermost feelings, that is very tired, moreover needs the patience. But, the virtuous young woman receives social after all the respect, otherwise, cannot have these non- virtuous young women to do intentionally shyly in front of the media, two slightly personally hand over rubs in front of the chest, 燕语莺�\ road: Actually, I in this aspect am classical.
The classicism advocation rationality, the emphasis is harmonious, steady, is balanced. Probably "God has died" since Nietzsche after, all changed. I believed that, was the material civilization changed person's all.
Truly, people's esthetic tendency has hadthe change, even more likes these has plastered the thing, including sound. If goes into seriously, this involves to person's instinct. In the person instinct can naturally choose these enable the sense organ to obtain the joyful thing, for instance, likes listening to the delightful sound, but avoids perverses the ear the sound, no matter this sound does not like the likelihood. Certainly, also has some in addition kind of illustration, like in the modernist school literary arts overflows wickedly, morbid state and so on, but these certainly cannot represent the normal humanity's attribute. Real musical instrument sound how many some rough feelings, specially you approached have listened, many people certainly did not like, but liked these has decorated, a real musical instrument is been clearer than gentle sound. Perhaps is because I have been engaged in many years instrumental music performance and the recording work, if the sound has excessively many dyeing a little to cannot bear. The sound recording has many damages to sound itself, discarded many details, the space has also changed extremely not the nature. Actually this also very normal, do not have to say is the amplifier, is a wire, its resistance is impossible is zero, is not zero also is the ideal conductor, then, the signal comes in from this, exits from that, already was the non-linearity, do not have to say, records transforms the that multichannel institution after the sound electricity, again passes through also the sound system electroacoustical transformation, really, by now you only could assemble are listening!
Li: France's designers once have said such speech: The regeneration canned food music is absolutely can compare with the scene music, I make the acoustic equipment am for provide happily listen respectfully the music tool. What view regarding this do you have?
To: Regardless of this designer's fame has in a big way, in my opinion his this viewpoint is wrong. Reference point certainly if original sound. Any records also systematically, the perfect condition should be the not distorted recording and the return to original state, this is a goal. At present looked that, we also have quite long section of distances to this goal. But reviews electroacoustical the development history, we locate this time merely is the initial stage. After several hundred years, the posterity certainly can ridicule us: Is this group of fellow, how such stupid! The natural law is this, humanity's limitation causes us not to be impossible in some questions to pass through the space and time, will walk the future.
Li: Your reference point is the real sound, then, you do have the inspection general expense community the reference point.
Dry: As an extremely ordinary person, they meet naturally take the real sound as the reference point. However, regarding the real musical instrument, the singing voice sound they is not certainly familiar, specially we often said "the scene". Therefore, what place does refer this spot to?
At present, our country music popularization work is not that the ideal, the majority person very little has the opportunity to be able to listen to the scene performance, do not have to say the first-class music hall and the first-class philharmonic orchestra. Compares with the domestic other cities, Beijing good somewhat, the foreign philharmonic orchestra, 演奏家 come to be more. But, Beijing until now does not have a architectural acoustics condition to have the world level the performance location. We frequently listen on these the announcement day small dish, all is constructs the sound condition extremely good sound recording awning in these or is in the church transcribes. If takes us in the scene which domestic hears with these days small dishes to make the comparison, inside this has the very big problem. Moreover, records the microphone to collect the sound the position to be also different to us listens time Lohwei's position in the music hall. Recently, I heard to Japanese transcribing to have a fever the phonograph record "To get angry the Tao Ten thousand Miles", this phonograph record collected the reflection sound the microphone to use three pairs, divided into far center nearly lays aside, in sound space processing on the comparison nature, approached us that kind of spatial feeling which heard in the music hall.
Li: With you before designs the audioamplifier compares, you now the design in the tendency, the transient state, spatially are eternally grateful - aspect and so on spatial performance very splendidly, appears liveliness to be full, but "the rhyme 昧" pale, how did you regard this question?
To: This or involves in fact to the design idea. I always believed that, says by the present two sound tracks stereo sounds, it should be able to display a quite good three dimensional sound space. Listen to the music in the recording awning and the music hall time, you will feel oneself in a sound environment, sound in yours around about about, very natural existence in space, once turned the sound recording, the space is then extruded distorts. I do the endeavor, is wants as far as possible to seek that kind of spatial feeling in also the sound system, certainly, it and the real spatial relations only can be relative, but is impossible is absolute. Must display the good sound the space, speaking of the amplifier, must have the good frequency frequency characteristic, the split-ring characteristic, the closed loop listens to outside the territory the frequency sound curve to have afterwards as far as possible smooth to be broad. Actually does the frequency sound extend to how many only then is good, this also must look the coordination can have the problem with the loudspeaker between. The amplifier high frequency low frequency is more difficult than to do, the amplifier itself high frequency distortion and the frequency characteristic are all lower than the center 频差. On the other hand, the person ear must be much more sensitive than to the intermediate frequency distortion the low frequency distortion.
Says from the esthetic angle, I compare like that kind having exactly the fresh feeling sound. Some person of analogies phonograph record is the canned food music, then, we never may not come to select freshly, are bringing a dew, the sense of reality clear sound?
As for the rhyme 昧, that mostly is must mix a seasoning toward the sound in. Mixes exchanges well, may play covers up the flaw the role, does not do well, in the vacation adds the vacation, also was more false. Finally, we hear completely are one kind of sound which and the real sound disobeys.
Li: From now on, you are maintain the present this kind of design wind 格呢? Or displays the different sound style through the different series product? I hoped but actually very much you can have a series or some section product can maintain "are classical" a sound, because you have to do the artistic cultural context after all.
To: Does the artistic person certainly to want to be classical? Then has not done the cultural art person on very the modern age? I understood your meaning, you are were saying: Classically is equal to the culture. This is the concept understanding question. The modern age also is a culture, but the fashion not necessarily is a culture, after 200 years, our this time became has been classical. In in the different series product I definitely must consider differently expends the community the expense psychology, the cultural level, esthetic interest and so on factor.
Li: How do you to subjectively listen the appraisal and the objective technical specification relations looked?
To: This is a very important question, also is a very important topic. At present, we can determine has the technical specification to the sound quality which the key affects is not too many, has some targets the test method not to also unify. The technical specification and subjectively listens between the appraisal relations not to be able to correspond unifies. In other words, subjectively listens the discovery question not to be able to obtain the perfect accurate annotation in the technical specification. Two technical specifications quite same not less than machine, some very pleasant to hear, another very is coarse, this is the common matter. Regarding harmonic distortion, at present sign total harmonic distortion, but has not sectioned out is wonderful or partner, but is wonderful time in listens to in the feeling with 偶次谐波 the distortion to be able to create the completely opposite two kind of appraisals, the overseas certain amplifiers have specially sectioned out the triple frequency distortion. Although 偶次谐波 can cause the sound phonetic change pine to change softly, but cannot excessively many increase it, otherwise, the sound can change lacks dynamics, lacks the individuality. In fact, in subjectively listens the sound change and the difference which discovered, all explained also in the sound system physical parameter is changing. Moreover, in subjectively listens these which in the appraisal discovered temporarily not to be able to use the technical specification to come the annotation the difference and the question, I thought, the power also calls it "outside the target target". Along with us to the material world unceasingly thorough understanding, finally, the humanity regarding this certainly may have more deeper assurances.
At present, our field must write in the product instruction booklet three big targets, is only to at best the product most basic limits, also tells everybody; Don't too was odd.
Moreover, I want to chat to subjectively listen an appraisal view: I believed that, now standard that several pairs appraise with the terminology, but also cannot cover its complete content by far, specially psychological aspect. Subjectively listens the appraisal research to be supposed to take the esthetics aspect the content, because listens itself also is an esthetic process.
Li: You listen when which commonly used does software have?
To: Divides into several groups. The violin, the cello, the small chamber music, the piano, the sounds of people (specially are female voice and child's voice), greatly dynamic symphony, 打击乐 and so on. For instance the violin I after commonly used Paganini 24 �想曲, the cello am Starker performance Kodaly, these two phonograph records all are the non- accompaniments. The school sound uses the phonograph record should better be the real musical instrument class, do not have to use the synthesizer music or the pop music, because these music manufactures ingredients too big, not too is easy to find the reference point. Also, do not have to use the too old recording school sound, its itself records is not good.
Li: When your school sound grasps what the principle or are the skill? Compared with attenion timbre, or balanced state, or other?
To: The school sound is to the design adjustment and the supplement, Ji Yi hoped the sound to the goal which decides is approaching, also is a design part. My school sound principle also is I to the sound the pursue, also is containing in front of us has said the design idea. Regarding the sound, the person ear most sensitive thing is a timbre, therefore the first matter is must complete the timbre. Receives is the trim, localization, space, sound field and so on. Also must consider each kind of factor organically unifies in, is together negative positively, which reduces to increase which, makes every effort to act bashful for more than 1 minute then fat few minute then dry just right boundary.
In the school sound process frequently can have two kind of situations, one is cannot the correct judgement sound to otherwise, two is judges also does not have the means change sound. Regarding former, the best means only can listen the training aspect to strengthen exercise, but relative quite is troublesome regarding latter. Why? Says regarding the simulation audio frequency amplification electric circuit, its electric circuit fundamental mode is mostly the same except for minor differences, same electric circuit, same primary device, if ten engineers implement the product, then, can obtain ten kind of sounds. Among this, obviously experiences the function. In this experience has included quite many things, likes the electric circuit structure, the craft structure, the wiring, the primary device, electric circuit parameter establishment and so on. This requests the designer to have the rich experience accumulation, does the deep technical foundation of basic skills, which aspect sound change the electric circuit to be able to face any direction to walk, achieves knows fairly well. A mature designer designs the series product, often can maintain the quite close sound tendency, this also explained this designer has had the control sound ability.
Says regarding the circuit design, the different electric circuit structure, the different electric circuit parameter can bring the different electric circuit performance and the sound tendency. A audioamplifier has 100 to more than 300 primary devices, should say, each primary device all is the sound invariable factor, the key looked how you do go match. Designer this work, the design is also good, the school sound, all has the point image to paint pictures, for you plain white cloth pile of colors, the picture goes. How did the red orange yellow malachite green bluish violet love match all is you matter, was good as for the composition, did the color coordinate that is looks at the picture person's original story. The design, inside this is filling the creation ingredient, the creation fervor.
Li: Which in does your mind classical product have?
To: In the gallbladder machine has Marantz, McintOsh, Matisse. Until to today, regardless of is in the technology or in the sound performance, these machines still were the outstanding people. In the crystal machine has Mark the Levinson early time the product, Cello, YBA and so on. These machines all have one kind of not vulgar sound pursue, that kind of pursue not merely is may summarize with the rich sound musical sense such phrase, that is one kind of spirit and the cultural makings.
Specially what is worth mentioning England's some center low power machines, electric circuit very simple, nothing proposes something new and different the place, the primary device very is also ordinary. Has the individual machine the electric circuit is several year ago thing, two levels of voltage amplifications have only used four transistors, including input difference enlargement and temperature compensation, even also brings the bootstrap circuit, also is the regeneration. Today looked like that, you said, such machine can listen? But, the sound really is passable. This involves has spoken face-to-face to us in front of some questions, these phenomenon has also provided some kind of enlightenment and the ponder for us. Universal speaking, Japan's machine, the craft is very good, in the technology also has in many trades to sell the spot, but, their sound always lacks that one kind of makings, one kind of pursue, this and this nationality's culture not without relations. I have the very long time cooperation with the Japanese sound recording, the Japanese have been extremely earnest in the work diligently, but they lack the talent and the divine and wonderful spirit.
Li: How did you look to artistic and the technical relations?
To: The technology is a foundation, if does not have the technology, all are the empty talk. Makes an analogy: I thought 帕� the graceful qin pulls is not good, my boundary compared to him high, my sound musical sense is better than him, but I do not have 帕� the graceful technology, I cannot pull. Says regarding the electroacoustics, if only has the technology, but does not have the cultural art tutelage which should have, only can be an artisan. Therefore, technical and the artistic relations are dialectical. The electroacoustical design truly needs the designer to have the minimum music art tutelage, the connoisseurship savors, it is weighs the designer overall standard a part, this relations is very direct, is dissimilar with other science, the designer finally wants to use own ear to judge takes the shed.
Li: Do you to the domestically produced sound industry present situation, what view the development and the existence question have?
To: Looked from the world economics big environment that, our country acoustic industry still occupied the rising period and the initial stage, the partial enterprises have the short-term behavior, fished removes. As a result of this kind of point of view, in addition the state-owned enterprise is not booming, causes some foundation disciplines the research and the world advanced developed country distance is more and more far, many primary devices must rely on the import, is at the passive condition. The knowledge economy time, the knowledge is the capital, is a value. If we also pace back and forth in the labor-intensive form industrial structure, then, we may become the acoustic output great nation, but could not become the world level acoustic great nation.
Li: Then, you thought what place the domestically produced sound industry and the foreign sound industry disparity mainly do display in?
To: The disparity is various, overall. Makes this kind of tentative plan: Perhaps we had the world apex technology in some aspect, but with it necessary aspects actually in a complete mess, which one kind of level such combination can represent? In in the transformation material world process, the person is first, enhances the entire national national quality definitely non- empty talk!
Li: How do you match to the equipment looked?
To: Matches very importantly, good has been twice the result with half the effort, has missed the wasted effort. Matches said thoroughly was reperforms the equipment physical property to combine, how many belt creations meaning. The key is enhances strong points and avoid weaknesses, found a best balance point. Actually is any type balance best, this a little is different from person to person, how even if is the system which I helps you to recuperate you possibly not satisfies, this involves to acoustic esthetics some questions.
Li: How do you regard the family theater? Is AV finally substitutes for Ui-Fi, or AV and Hi - Fi respectively has each development home to return to? Or the final home to return to is Hi - Fi?
To: AV and Hi-Fi completely are two matters, who also couldn't replace anyone. But looked from the development angle that, future has not been able to appear that kind of two proper attentions to both the sound video frequency service pattern. Absorbs the outside information in the human sense organ in the proportion, the vision occupies the proportion is biggest, approximately 70% several, but the sense of hearing only has 10% several. Therefore, person deaf compared to blind lucky, the deaf person may depending on the eye look understands in the world the majority matter, but the blind person quite is troublesome. Also because of sense organ a series of attributes, therefore, the humanity is depending on the vision to distinguish thing may time how not move the brain, but uses the sense of hearing time then frequently needs to concentrate on completely, and carries on the ponder. This also is why do some person of televisions look many, person actually more and more silly reason. Certainly, if all transfers the human sensation information organ, vision, sense of hearing, sense of smell, sense of touch, then, will be able to obtain on the body and mind the maximum satisfaction.
I hoped the friends can listen to Hi - the Fi sound, listens to the classical music. Today world, in ours periphery, in our life filled various stimulating, the nerve already is changing is more and more numb, this as if certainly not too human nature. I hoped our humanity returns to in the middle of the nature, returns to in the human nature harmony, the feeling esthetic sense receives the emotion, feels all to belong to our humanity's thing.
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