Teiki, as tu pu approfondir ta comparaison des aop 627ap vs 627bp?
De mon coté, j'ai refait quelques tests :
en 1 et 2, je ne peux me prononcer. Pas de différences sur mon système
de 3 à 6, un brin de basses en plus, c'est vraiment étonnant! Medium et aigus indentiques!
Bien entendu, ds mes tests, je n'ai pas remis les condos d'origine. Ceci explique peut être celà...
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- flom
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Quelqu'un a t il un avis sur les ponts de diodes existants?
Qu'apporte sur une source, un pont de diodes rapide?
Si des changements étaient à envisager, lesquels seraient à opérer en priorité?
Qu'apporte sur une source, un pont de diodes rapide?
Si des changements étaient à envisager, lesquels seraient à opérer en priorité?
- flom
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Je dois approfondir, mais en plein déménagement..flom a écrit:Teiki, as tu pu approfondir ta comparaison des aop 627ap vs 627bp?
De mon coté, j'ai refait quelques tests :
en 1 et 2, je ne peux me prononcer. Pas de différences sur mon système
Je confirme pour les emplacements 3 à 6 de ton schema avec les OPA627BP....flom a écrit:de 3 à 6, un brin de basses en plus, c'est vraiment étonnant! Medium et aigus indentiques! Bien entendu, ds mes tests, je n'ai pas remis les condos d'origine. Ceci explique peut être celà...


Je vais essayer tout ça sur une belle petite paire d'enceintes dans une quinzaine...


- teiki arii
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flom a écrit:Teiki, as tu pu approfondir ta comparaison des aop 627ap vs 627bp?
De mon coté, j'ai refait quelques tests :
en 1 et 2, je ne peux me prononcer. Pas de différences sur mon système
de 3 à 6, un brin de basses en plus, c'est vraiment étonnant! Medium et aigus indentiques!
Bien entendu, ds mes tests, je n'ai pas remis les condos d'origine. Ceci explique peut être celà...
y a une capa entre les AOP et le tube ?
- UltimateX86
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Tu as tout en première page...UltimateX86 a écrit:y a une capa entre les AOP et le tube ?flom a écrit:Teiki, as tu pu approfondir ta comparaison des aop 627ap vs 627bp?
De mon coté, j'ai refait quelques tests :
en 1 et 2, je ne peux me prononcer. Pas de différences sur mon système
de 3 à 6, un brin de basses en plus, c'est vraiment étonnant! Medium et aigus indentiques!
Bien entendu, ds mes tests, je n'ai pas remis les condos d'origine. Ceci explique peut être celà...


- teiki arii
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teiki arii a écrit: Je dois approfondir, mais en plein déménagement..
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Je confirme pour les emplacements 3 à 6 de ton schema avec les OPA627BP....![]()
Je vais essayer tout ça sur une belle petite paire d'enceintes dans une quinzaine...![]()
Bon courage pour ton déménagement!
Une nouvelle paire d'enceintes? Tu as prévu de remplacer tes triangles?

- flom
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OUi, il a prévu de remplacer ses tweeters (quoique j'ai compris autre chose, y aurait pas 2 systèmes différents en gestation ?)
- beb
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beb a écrit:OUi, il a prévu de remplacer ses tweeters (quoique j'ai compris autre chose, y aurait pas 2 systèmes différents en gestation ?)


- teiki arii
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flom a écrit:Quelqu'un a t il un avis sur les ponts de diodes existants?
Qu'apporte sur une source, un pont de diodes rapide?
Si des changements étaient à envisager, lesquels seraient à opérer en priorité?
Up?
- flom
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a priori, des diodes rapides apportent un meilleur redressement en réduisant les bruits de commutation...
Maintenant, lonter des diodes normales à la place du pont sur la cayin c'est pas facile...
Pas fait pour
Et il y a plusieurs ponts...
Maintenant, lonter des diodes normales à la place du pont sur la cayin c'est pas facile...
Pas fait pour
Et il y a plusieurs ponts...
- beb
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beb a écrit:a priori, des diodes rapides apportent un meilleur redressement en réduisant les bruits de commutation...
Maintenant, lonter des diodes normales à la place du pont sur la cayin c'est pas facile...
Pas fait pour
Et il y a plusieurs ponts...
Salut Beb, donc pas de petite amélioration "simple" de ce coté là!
D'autres thèmes d'optimisation sur la cdt?
- flom
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Je ne sais pas trop...
Changer les condos d'alim pour des meilleurs ?
Mais attention aux prix...
Ce qui me gène un peu sur cette platine, c'est l'utilisation d'AOP avec un étage final à tubes
La lua n'a pas d'AOP...
Mais il semble qu'elle ne soit plus dispo chez nous à un prix raisonnable...
Changer les condos d'alim pour des meilleurs ?
Mais attention aux prix...
Ce qui me gène un peu sur cette platine, c'est l'utilisation d'AOP avec un étage final à tubes
La lua n'a pas d'AOP...
Mais il semble qu'elle ne soit plus dispo chez nous à un prix raisonnable...
- beb
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Une petite mésaventure survenue à un forumeur européen suite à un achat sur eBay -probablement Grey Market- de la Lua Appassionnato/Doge 6201:
"Hello,
I occurred just only this forum and wanted to contribute something times to the Doge 6201. I apparent ordered well-known Sherman from HK me over that the all-last Doge6201 in June. This had then surprisingly a delay of nearly four weeks and arrived then to at the beginning of of July finally.
The equipment attached and approximately mine Marantz DV12S2 as well as Shanling Scd-s300 immediately compared. The Doge illustrated around lengths more spatially than other both, the fantastic sound. One could hear like the guitarist with the thumb of the string slips, wonderful. But then my wife came to house....... Which I am to say, I have the Player then a few days later with Ebay adjusted. Was most interesting, one could the Andalezaehler nearly minuetlich update.
After three days were already over 350 Klicks, insanity! But then the unbelievable came: The offer was taken out and one was eliminated even completely me with Ebay, deactivated "this member is no more with Ebay announced", wow! What had happened? In the same evening I received still another Message by Mail from Mr. Lua, by wanting to sue me for 250.000EUR. He meant, I plagiarisms, thus Chinese pirat copies under the people would bring. In the next three days I was then bombarded with writings by Mr. Lua. It demanded the publication of the Players, otherwise complaint. After a clarifying telephone call I consented it the Player to then make available. It assured darufhin that I was to suffer financially no damage, ergo it pays the Player. I had hardly sent, got the Player to it I the next threatening letter: Since I would have called it not immediately the source of supply, the Player would be now seized, natural of him without money reconciliation.
The chap is genuinly the hardness! After a good week had without result elapsed period now, I went to a lawyer. This wrote down naturally Mr. Lua and demanded the Player or complete payment. It called me thereafter again and was continuously only to me insults and threatens. He would rush all offices and authorities on me etc.. At the end he said then, he a fraction to me to replace would want, what I rejected however with reference at the actual expense. A few days later it paid then means cost price, but are also still open without my transport costs to it and the lawyer costs, beautiful muck! Afterwards I could understand, why Mr. Lua did not want to pay so much: he buys the Player in a small factory (11 people) close Jolida in Shanghai for a price of 390USD! The super price it has gotten because it gave 100Stueck for each manufacturing lot to buy in each case, which however never happened. The last lot is to have amounted to probably straight times 4 pieces.
The mark DOGE: Me it became to course-carry that the mark Doge developed, because Mr. Lua did not remove again once ueberpingelig approx. 90 % of lining up production. It monierte allegedly any quality criteria such as gloss degrees of the front plate or in such a way. Tja and the company threatened to remain sitting on the existence. Thus you invented the new mark Doge6201 and sold the devices everywhere. In the meantime various dealers had received and bought this also to stop the cheaper Doge instead of the Lua Apassionato. That annoyed the Lua naturally and it forced the producer the emission to adjust. Therefore there is at present also no more Doge.
But that it does not have nevertheless with plagiarism anything to do, the equipment comes nevertheless from Lua's of own factory! This small company by the way resulted from a developer stepped out by Jolida. This created this Startup and manufactures also a few people this Player. In the forum the assumption already often came up, which Cantilena would come from Jolida, which I would see also in such a way. finally was for many years Lua is also obvious the German importer.......
The current Jolida music van is to by the way have the same circuit as the Cantilena I. Property me already offers caught up and asked it for a picture. Thereupon Sherman placed, looks the Player times purely since today also on-line."
Bon appétit...
"Hello,
I occurred just only this forum and wanted to contribute something times to the Doge 6201. I apparent ordered well-known Sherman from HK me over that the all-last Doge6201 in June. This had then surprisingly a delay of nearly four weeks and arrived then to at the beginning of of July finally.
The equipment attached and approximately mine Marantz DV12S2 as well as Shanling Scd-s300 immediately compared. The Doge illustrated around lengths more spatially than other both, the fantastic sound. One could hear like the guitarist with the thumb of the string slips, wonderful. But then my wife came to house....... Which I am to say, I have the Player then a few days later with Ebay adjusted. Was most interesting, one could the Andalezaehler nearly minuetlich update.
After three days were already over 350 Klicks, insanity! But then the unbelievable came: The offer was taken out and one was eliminated even completely me with Ebay, deactivated "this member is no more with Ebay announced", wow! What had happened? In the same evening I received still another Message by Mail from Mr. Lua, by wanting to sue me for 250.000EUR. He meant, I plagiarisms, thus Chinese pirat copies under the people would bring. In the next three days I was then bombarded with writings by Mr. Lua. It demanded the publication of the Players, otherwise complaint. After a clarifying telephone call I consented it the Player to then make available. It assured darufhin that I was to suffer financially no damage, ergo it pays the Player. I had hardly sent, got the Player to it I the next threatening letter: Since I would have called it not immediately the source of supply, the Player would be now seized, natural of him without money reconciliation.
The chap is genuinly the hardness! After a good week had without result elapsed period now, I went to a lawyer. This wrote down naturally Mr. Lua and demanded the Player or complete payment. It called me thereafter again and was continuously only to me insults and threatens. He would rush all offices and authorities on me etc.. At the end he said then, he a fraction to me to replace would want, what I rejected however with reference at the actual expense. A few days later it paid then means cost price, but are also still open without my transport costs to it and the lawyer costs, beautiful muck! Afterwards I could understand, why Mr. Lua did not want to pay so much: he buys the Player in a small factory (11 people) close Jolida in Shanghai for a price of 390USD! The super price it has gotten because it gave 100Stueck for each manufacturing lot to buy in each case, which however never happened. The last lot is to have amounted to probably straight times 4 pieces.
The mark DOGE: Me it became to course-carry that the mark Doge developed, because Mr. Lua did not remove again once ueberpingelig approx. 90 % of lining up production. It monierte allegedly any quality criteria such as gloss degrees of the front plate or in such a way. Tja and the company threatened to remain sitting on the existence. Thus you invented the new mark Doge6201 and sold the devices everywhere. In the meantime various dealers had received and bought this also to stop the cheaper Doge instead of the Lua Apassionato. That annoyed the Lua naturally and it forced the producer the emission to adjust. Therefore there is at present also no more Doge.
But that it does not have nevertheless with plagiarism anything to do, the equipment comes nevertheless from Lua's of own factory! This small company by the way resulted from a developer stepped out by Jolida. This created this Startup and manufactures also a few people this Player. In the forum the assumption already often came up, which Cantilena would come from Jolida, which I would see also in such a way. finally was for many years Lua is also obvious the German importer.......
The current Jolida music van is to by the way have the same circuit as the Cantilena I. Property me already offers caught up and asked it for a picture. Thereupon Sherman placed, looks the Player times purely since today also on-line."
Bon appétit...

- teiki arii
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momois, t'es toujours là?
T'as pas aimé le tweakage des condos?
T'as pas aimé le tweakage des condos?

- teiki arii
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Il a pas aimé le truc indigeste du dessus
Je crois qu'il est plutôt en vacances


Je crois qu'il est plutôt en vacances
- beb
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