Scaler Lumagen Radiance Mini-XS-XD/XE (2D et 3D)

[Richard Lemesle]

EDIT par alex_t 26/09/2012: le topic du Mini ( viewtopic.php?f=1258&t=29956971 ) a été fermé afin de rassembler tous les utilisateurs de Radiance sur un seul et même topic

UN PEU D'HISTOIRE :

En fait, le 1er Radiance annoncé était un RadianceXS avec une Realta HQV (et une version light le RadianceXD toujours basée sur la Realta HQV).
Ce RadianceXS a été ensuite remplacé par le RadianceXG qui disposait d'une Gennum VXP (on ne parle plus alors de version light).
Et aujourd'hui (fin 2007) c'est ce dernier quelque peu modifié qui s'apprete à sortir (il est déjà dispo en beta) finalement sous le nom de RadianceXD

Quant à la version "light" de ce nouveau RadianceXD, elle est "annoncée" par Jim Peterson sur AVS sous le nom de RadianceXS !

Aujourd'hui (fin 2007) c'est donc le Radiance XD qui est sur le point de sortir basé sur une puce Gennum VXP 9450 qui est sur le point de sortir.

Les specs sont disponibles ici et plus précisemment dans cette brochure

Les voici traduites en Français :

Entrées :

18 entrées vidéo:
-6 HDMI (SD/HD),
-4 Component (SD/HD),
-4 SVideo et
-4 Composite

18 entrées audio :
- 6 HDMI,
- 4 stereo,
- 2 optical et
- 6 COAX

Sorties :

2 sorties audio/vidéo HDMI
2 sorties audio COAX

Principales fonctionnalités :

· traitement vidéo 10-bit
· Algorithme propriétaire Lumagen de mise à l'échelle réputé "no-ring" (peu d'artifacts lié à la mise à l'échelle)
· 4 configurations mémorisables par entrée
· Pour chacune de ces configurations, 8 sous-configuration par résolution d'entrée
· 2:2, 3:2 and 3:3 pull-down sur les sources Film SD/HD
· Désentrelacement "Per-pixel" des sources vidéo SD/HD
· Adaptive diagonal filtering
· Réducteur de bruit vidéo MPEG, mosquito & Block
· Réducteur de bruit "temporel" sur les sources SD/HD
· Résolution de sortie de 480p à 1080p, et 1080i
· Modes de mise à l'échelle non linéaire NLS programmables par l'utilisateur (étirement d'une source 4/3 sur du 16/3 privilégiant le centre de l'écran par exemple)
· Format d'entrée (ratios) 4:3, Letter Box, 16:9, 1.85, 2.35 et NLS
· Format de sortie (ratios) programmable de 1.33 à 2.35
· Support des lentilles anamorphiques
· Détection automatique du PAL, du NTSC et du SECAM
· Nombreuses mires de test
· Calibrage possible de l'échelle de gris
· Calibrage possible du Gamma
· Espaces de couleur d'entrée/sortie programmables
· Calibrage du délai Y/C
· Capacités d'améliorations de l'image ajustables par l'utilisateur
· Filtres CUE and ICP
· Prise en compte de l'audio 7.1 PCM à 96kHz
· 2 triggers 12 volts
· Controlable en IR et RS232
· Format d'entrée de commandes IR LVTTL
· Alimentation universelle
· Convertisseur SDI vers HDMI optionnel
· Convertisseur HDMI vers Analogique optionnel
· Poignées optionnelles pour un montage en Rack

Une petite photo de l'arrière de la bète :





Pour info, voici le précédent contenu de ce post correspondant à l'annonce du Radiance XG :

Lumagen vient d'annoncer sur son site la sortie (début 2007) du premier scaler de la gamme Radiance !

Alors que l'on attendait des scalers à base de Realta HQV (c'est ce que Lumagen avait annoncé jusque là avec les Radiance XS à 5999$ et XD à 3999$ cf ici), c'est un scaler à base de Gennum VXP à 3499$ qui est maintenant annoncé pour début 2007 !

Ce scaler est le Radiance XG dont les spécifications extraites du site Lumagen sont les suivantes :

The Lumagen RadianceXG™ Processor Provides High-Performance Video Switching, Processing and Calibration for the Home Theater and Commercial Markets.

The RadianceXG provides a versatile backbone for high-definition (HD) theater systems. With 12 video, and 17 audio input sources, it offer extensive switching capabilities, including PiP/POP support. Two HDMI outputs, and two COAX audio outputs, are provided. Together these enable the RadianceXG to act as the central switching hub for large theater systems, at home or in a corporate environment.

Feature list:
Inputs (12 video, 17 audio including audio on the five HDMI inputs):
- 5 HDMI
- 2 Component/SCART
- 1 VGA (accepts RGBHV or Component)
- 2 SVideo
- 2 Composite
- 4 Stereo analog
- 6 COAX audio
- 2 Optical audio
- 1 IR command (TTL-level)

Outputs (2 video, 4 audio including audio on HDMI outputs):
- 2 HDMI
- 2 SPDIF

Functionality:
- Picture-in-Picture (PiP) and Picture-Outside-Picture (PoP)
- Two HDMI outputs allow two digital HDCP displays to have independent setups
- Second HDMI output can be copy of the first, or it can be audio only at a lower rate for receivers not capable of accepting 1080p inputs
- 10-bit, or higher, processing input to output
- Modular design. Video processing can be upgraded to 16-bit when 16-bit depth video processing chip becomes available, by replacing small daughter-card.
- Per-pixel detail enhancement
- MPEG artifact reduction, including mosquito and block artifacts
- Temporal noise reduction for SD and HD sources
- Per-pixel noise adaptive, directional interpolation video deinterlacing
- Film inverse-telecine with cadence processing including bad-edit detection
- Film genlock for correct 24, 48, 60, 72-Hertz output (24fps), and 50, 75 Hertz (25fps)
- Inherently low-latency video and film deinterlacing (1.25 frame if genlocked)
- Game mode for lowest latency (approximately 0.25 fames if genlocked)
- MPEG mosquito and block artifact noise reduction
- Lip-sync matching for audio and video
- HDMI and analog support up to 1080p input
- Adaptive diagonal filter for best quality video source processing
- Full-resolution Chroma processing (4:4:4)
- Direct selection of 4:3, 4:3 NLS, 16:9, 1.85 and 2.35 source aspect ratio
- User definable Preciseview™ Non-Linear-Stretch (NLS) of 4:3 source on 16:9 screen
- Software and video processing algorithms are user upgradeable using free updates
- 11-point parametric gamma grayscale calibration
- Color and Hue offsets for Red and Green push correction
- Primary color correction
- Extensive test patterns for display/projector setup
- Extensive input and output sizing, color-space, etc, controls provide an optimal setup for all combinations of input sources and displays.
- Rack mountable case (17 by 3.5 by 10.5)
- Optional external HDMI to analog converter
- Optional external SDI to HDMI converter
- Optional rack mount ears

Description:
The RadianceXG is perfectly suited for refining and enhancing the images presented by front projectors and top-level rear-screen displays. It combines the award winning Lumagen switching, calibration, and proprietary No-ring™ scaling, with the exceptional deinterlacing and noise reduction of the Gennum VXP™ video processing technology. Together the Lumagen and Gennum technologies provide 10-bit processing, per-pixel SD and HD video deinterlacing with enhanced adaptive diagonal filtering, edge enhancing scaling technology that does not introduce ringing – unlike other competing processors, plus MPEG mosquito and block artifact reduction. Finally, the most important image quality feature is temporal noise reduction for both SD and HD sources. Simply stated, the RadianceXG delivers extensive switching, advanced calibration features, and higher performance than other video processors.

The RadianceXG video inputs include 5 HDMI, with HDCP, 2 SD/HD Component, 1 VGA, 2 S-Video, and 2 composite. The HDMI, VGA, and component, inputs accept input resolutions of up to 1080p at 60 Hertz. For audio, in addition to audio using the 5 HDMI inputs, there are four analog stereo pairs, 6 coax and 2 optical audio inputs.

The RadianceXG’s two HDMI outputs support up to 1920 by 1080, 60-Hertz, progressive resolution. The second HDMI output can be a copy of the first output, or it can be used as an audio only output to send audio to receivers that do not support a full 1080p for their HDMI inputs. Additionally, for systems with two displays, an independent output configuration can be used for each.

The RadianceXG supports PiP, and POP, for any two inputs. Other key features include user-adjustable image enhancement, four configuration memories for each input, a programmable output resolution from 480p to 1080p, plus 1080i; the ability to zoom in on any source by up to 33 percent; selectable aspect ratios of 4:3, 4:3 NLS, 16:9, 1.85, and 2.35. The 4:3 NLS uses Lumagen’s Preciseview™ user programmable non-linear-stretch mode to allow the user to program exactly how 4:3 sources fill a 16:9 display. For film sources 2:2, 3:2 and 3:3 pull-down detection is supported (along with other less common cadences) to allow for correct cadence output at 24, 48, 60 and 72 Hertz for 24 fps film sources, plus 50 and 75 Hertz for 25 fps film source.

The RadianceXG is a modular platform. It allows for upgraded capabilities without the need to buy an entirely new video processor. For example, the current VXP processor from Gennum utilizes 10-bit pixel-depth processing, but when a 16-bit pixel-depth video processor becomes available, it can be installed by simply replacing a small daughter card. And the RadianceXG is designed to be able to take maximum advantage of the 16-bit processor’s pixel depth. The HDMI revision 1.1 inputs and outputs can also be upgraded to new HDMI revision levels as they become available, while keeping the same video processor in place.

The RadianceXG automatically detects input format for SD composite, and SVideo, as well as HD component and HDMI signals. There are four configuration memories per input with unique set-up parameters for each memory; an extensive suite of test patterns; 11-point parametric grayscale and gamma calibration; Color and Hue offsets; Y/C delay; CUE/ICP filtering, input sizing, and programmable input and output color-space. An RS232 interface is provided for software upgrades and control functions. An external universal power supply enhances the processor’s reliability, placement options, and it allows for quiet – no fan - operation.

The RadianceXG is the first product in Lumagen’s Radiance™ family of video processors. Lumagen plans other models in the Radiance line that use the VXP™ technology, and other video processors, such as the Silicon Optix Realta™.

Lumagen also produces the Vision series of video processors. These award-wining products were first to provide affordable per-pixel HD deinterlacing for video sources, and inverse-telecine for 1080i film-based sources, allowing a true 1080p viewing experience. Members of the Vision family include VisionHDP, and the Vision HDQ.

The RadianceXG video processor will be available in 2007 Q1 from authorized Lumagen dealers at a suggested price of $3499. Rack-ears for mounting the RadianceXG in a 19” rack are available at a suggested price of $50. Pricing for the external HDMI to analog converter and external SDI to HDMI converter is TBD.

Voila donc un concurrent pour le VP50 de DVDO.

Etrange ce retournement HQV -> VXP ?!? d'autant qu'ils indiquent que des Radiance à base de puce Silicon Optix Realta sont toujours prévus ?!?

A suivre.

Richard.
PS: Pour ceux qui veulent suivre le thread sur avs c'est ici.

[pedro]

C'est vrai que c'est trés surprenant
Lumagen serait alors la seule boite à avoir les 2 solutions au catalogue... Mais c'est bien comme ca on aura le choix

[Richard Lemesle]

Il semblerait que la puce VXP au coeur de ce RadianceXG ne soit pas la 9350 mais son successeur la 9450 !

La principale différence a mon sens est sa capacité à faire de la réduction de bruit sur des signaux HD :

- independant dual channel processing
- fully adaptative dual channel 1080i de-interlacing
- uncompromized 10 bits processing
- SD/HD MPEG artifact reduction (block & mosquito)
- SD/HD 3D noise reduction
- unified DDR2 memory interface (4x16 bits)
- full colour OSD

Richard.

[poup]

+ le fait de pouvoir faire deux désentrelacements simultanés (cf AVS), ce qui va bien avec les deux sorties HDMI

[jacko]

Ce qui m'interesse la plus c'est l'architecture modulaire !

Si ya pas d'embrouille ca veut dire que cette machine aura une tres longue duree de vie !

M'enfin Q1 2007 .... ils peuvent encore changer ....

[Richard Lemesle]

Du nouveau sur le Radiance "XG" :


- le prix qui remonte à 3999$.
- l'arrivée d'une 6ème entrée HDMI et d'une entrée analogique complémentaire
- le nom redevient Radiance XD (D pour dual sorties)
- la confirmation de l'utilisation de la toute dernière puce Gennum (la VXP 9450)
- l'utilisation de cette puce "uniquement" pour le désentrelacement/inverse telecine, l'amélioration des contours (edge enhancement) et la réduction de bruits
- la sortie de la version beta fin janvier et jusqu'a mars
- une sortie esperée du produit en Avril
- on peut demander à disposer d'une version beta en écrivant à sales@lumagen.com
- le prix de cette version beta est le même que le prix d'une version finale car le matériel est le même et "seul" le logiciel est en beta (je trouve ça limite quand même)...

A lot of people have been asking us, Lumagen, about an update on Radiance, so I thought I would post one on this thread before doing a press release this week. This info is hot off the presses, as we made the decision this past week.

Many people on this forum have followed the Radiance series since well before we even had a name for it. They will recall that we originally planned on the RadianceXD being the first family member, that it was to cost $5999, and that it would have six HDMI inputs and two HDMI outputs.

Then as the prices fell dramatically on 1080p projectors, we were trying to have 4 HDMI inputs at $4499, then at $3999 (this got into a Widescreen review of the Vision HDQ). We were working on further design refinements that we thought would allow a $3499 price with 5 HDMI inputs, 2 component, 2 SVideo, 1 VGA and 2 composite. This is what we talked about at CEDIA.

Three months have gone by and we have made some additional decisions on the Radiance series. We were not able to come up with enough cost savings to make the $3499 price with five HDMI inputs (or even just four) fly for us. We really wanted this to be the best video processor available, so, after a lot of thought, and even some work on a non-modular design, we have come to the decision to increase the input complement to six HDMI inputs plus add additional analog video inputs, and to list the product at $3999.

In addition, since this product has virtually all the features we originally proposed for the $5999 RadianceXD, we decided it should bear that moniker. We believe the second letter being related to the number of outputs (S=single, D=dual) will keep confusion down some as we add more products to the line.

I believe it’s okay for me to now confirm that we are using the new Gennum chip (as opposed to the last generation currently used by others) in the RadianceXD. Originally our NDA prevented us from publicly confirming this. We believe the silicon Gennum already has available for this new chip has all the functionality we need or will use. Since we – unlike pretty much everyone else - use the Gennum only for deinterlacing/inverse-telecine, edge enhancement and noise reduction, and these functions were demonstrated publicly at CEDIA, I hope we can put to rest some unfounded rumors about availability of the Radiance series Beta. If some issue was later uncovered, we – since our system is modular – could replace the Lumagen RadianceXD Beta unit’s Video-Processor-Daughter-Card containing the Gennum chip. However, we do not think this will be necessary based on the data we now have.

We are planning on the Beta shipments starting at the end of January with a few key distributors and dealers getting a look at the unit. We will follow with limited Beta through March. We are hopeful that first production will be in April. Of course we have a lot of ground to cover before then, and we might not make this date. However, as with our Vision series, if production release were to be delayed, we would continue the sale of Beta units. Beta units are again to be production hardware with pre-production software. I think our history shows we continue to actively update our software before and after production. So, for us, production release is a softer boundary than for other companies in this business.

RadianceXD Video Inputs (18):
6 HDMI
4 Component
4 SVideo
4 Composite

RadianceXD Audio Inputs (18):
6 HDMI (companion to video on same HDMI connection)
4 Stereo Analog
6 COAX
2 Optical

RadianceXD Outputs:
2 HDMI
2 COAX Audio

Other features are pretty much as described earlier. There will be a press release on our website Monday. We will be demonstrating the Alpha level RadianceXD at CES booth South 21666.

If anyone is interested in being a RadianceXD Beta test site, please email sales@lumagen.com and we will try to accommodate you. As with the Vision series, since Beta units have production hardware, and can be updated to full production with a software update, we do charge the same price for Beta as production. We do require Beta testers to sign a license agreement that these are not (yet) production units, that Beta results are confidential to Lumagen, and to actively provide feedback to Lumagen. We hope this is a win-win since it provides us with much enhanced testing, and provides Beta testers early access to new technology.

__________________
Jim Peterson
Lumagen

Richard.

[jacko]

Il va etre terrible !

Sait on si le boitier aura un ecran de controle ?

[sdguillet]

Des news ?

David

[shacard]

Une photo du Radiance XD :

http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachme ... 1167741043

Serge.

[Cr4P]

ouais une photo, ca ressemble plus a truc que j'aurais pu faire sur paint

[Digitalbot]

Magnifique machine en effet ! Apres avoir éliminé le HD3000 (pas de 1080P/24) et le DVDO vp50 (pas de correction offsets et gains, pas de correction de l'échelle de gris) je le commande des qu'il est dispo aux US

[deuch]

Le HD3000 sort du 1080p a 48Hz Ok c'est pas du 24p natif mais bon ... Par contre il ne l'accepte pas en entrée (actuellement le Lumagen HDQ est capable de traiter le 1080p24 25 et 30 en entrée)

[jacko]

Le HD3000 sort du 1080p a 48Hz Ok c'est pas du 24p natif mais bon ... Par contre il ne l'accepte pas en entrée (actuellement le Lumagen HDQ est capable de traiter le 1080p24 25 et 30 en entrée)

Les CII aussi prennent le 1080p24 et le 24psf en entree ainsi que le p50 et le p60.

[Digitalbot]

C'est une erreur de la part d'Optoma de ne pas intégrer une sortie 1080P /24

[jacko]

C'est une erreur de la part d'Optoma de ne pas intégrer une sortie 1080P /24

Oui car il y a des projos qui prennent le 24Hz mais pas le 48Hz (fiche technique du HD1).