[EPP_3D] Plasma Panasonic 2011- Gamme ST30

[realzven]

selon D-Nice, sur HDJ le ST30 est impressionant :
lien : http://www.highdefjunkies.com/showthrea ... 3-13/page2

quote :
D-Nice : Overall, I am impressed with the ST. It is by no means a 2nd gen Kuro. However, it does have accurate colors (equal to THX mode on the 2010 Panasonics) and far better gamma (Custom mode) compared to any 2010 Panasonic PDP.

[realzven]

Autre bonne nouvelle pour ceux qui veulent calibrer leur ST30 avec leur sonde, toujours selon D-Nice (http://www.highdefjunkies.com/showthrea ... 3-13/page2) :

quote :

- Originally Posted by SoCalTiger View Post
So, just to confirm, you were able to fully calibrate the ST30 using only the user-accessible menus? If so, this is excellent news for any non-professional weary of entering the SM.

- D-Nice : Yes

[Miqualke]

J'attend quand meme plus de review pour etre sure, mais pour le moment ça confirme mon idée que la différence de prix ne semble pas justifié pour le passage du ST30 au GT30 au niveau qualité d'image rien que pour le THX.
Au dela de ca, il semble qu'il y ai juste un design plus fin, 1 HDMI, 1 entrée PC en plus comme différence
A moins qu'ils livrent une paire de lunette avec.

[realzven]

Sur HDJ, D-Nice annonce qu'il doit recevoir dans moins d'une semaine un 50GT30, il pourra comparer avec le ST30 .
Sur HCFR, on a la chance d'avoir RubyRP ( ), un professionnel qui doit recevoir aussi le GT30 et qui aura la chance de pouvoir aussi les comparer...
Après ces retours, on aura une idée un peu plus précise sur les différences entre ST et GT

[Miqualke]

je pense que le GT30 devrait être plus performant logiquement, mais de la a justifier les 400euros de différence...

[realzven]

wait and see...

[realzven]

Bad news sur AVS , D-Nice a découvert su le ST30 du "Floating black/Floating White/screen flicker/fluctuating brightness
lien : http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre ... st20165980

- Quote 1:
Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

PQ wise, the ST30 equals the 4280HD I have in most cases. The 4280 has slightly better blacks on low APL scenes, but thats about it. Both noticeably glow when compared to 2nd gen Kuros.... even during the day.

- Quote 2 :
Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Ugggh!

It looks like I'm going to have to retract my comments from this post. I seem to have found some content that brings the ST30 to its knees. I'm currently watching Earth: Making of a Planet on NatGeoHD and not only have I found solarization/posturization, I've found scenes that induce floating blacks!!!

One example is when the camera circles the asteroid that hit the Earth 65 million years ago, you can clearly see the asteroid brighten and dim as the camera swings around it. Not good. None of this is present on my 101FD.

So it looks as if floating blacks are still present, just greatly reduced.

- Quote 3 :
Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Hmmm,

I wonder if this should be called floating blacks. The asteriod was fluctuating in brightness (and in other scenes, the entire screen). I'm thinking it should be classified as screen flicker or fluctuating brightness levels. What do you guys think?

- Quote 4 :
Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

I don't want to discourage you. The fluctuating brightness does not happen all the time. Its just something I noticed.

Solarization/banding has been apart of Panasonics for years. Its reduced from last year but is still there and probably will always be there until they truly change how they drive their displays.

- Quote 5 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre ... 98&page=17) :
Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

Its more like fluctuating brightness than floating blacks. It seems to be happening on low to mid APL scenes within Earth: Making of a Planet.

[realzven]

Suite sur HDJ,

lien : http://www.highdefjunkies.com/showthrea ... read/page6

- Quote 1 :

After reviewing the scenes about 20 times, I think this should be called fluctuating brightness or screen flicker. Hopefully someone else can replicate this.

- Quote 2 :

Objects and the entire image are fluctuating in brightness.

So far, yes. This seems to be a true torture test for the ST30. I'm seeing horrible banding.... especially in the "Snowball Earth" and underwater scenes. Its a real mess. None if this is apparent on my 101FD.

- Quote 3 :

I do see the banding on grayscale ramps. The fluctuating brightness is definitely interesting.

- Quote 4 :

Dammit! I just saw the fluctuating brightness again. Dukes of Hazzard on Universal HD (please don't ask why I'm watching this). This time it was more of a flicker than anything.

[realzven]

photo d'un "petit" 55ST30

[Urga]

D-Nice dit aussi qu'un ST30 pas mieux qu'un 4280HD qui date de 2007 ...

[EVILid]

c'est pas possible .... mais c'est une blague rassurez moi , encore ctte merde de fb en 2011 ???

je suis mdr

[iaka]

tain' l'image est sacrément terne. On dirait un vieux LCD.

Pour le floating black c'est normal. Panasonic n'a pas dit autre chose sur le question/réponse de flatpanelshd.
"on travaille sur le problème"... donc faudra attendre la série 40 ou 50 pour voir corrigé le pb ?

[realzven]

quelques photos du 50ST30 de coté :

[realzven]

50ST30 :

[realzven]

pirate des caraibes sur le 50ST30 d'un mec d'AVS :