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invite45 a écrit:j'ai un doute sur le dc4 du planarmais j'aimerai bien voir cet infocus in 83 en face du planar 8150
le traitement vidéo sur l'infocus semble un peu léger pixelwork il me semble
mais bon faut le voir tourner avant tout
riri2b a écrit:Richard tu a été plus rapide que moi pour répondre sur le traitement video, je pense la même chose que toi... ce n'ai plus très important aujourd'huis
Mais ce qui m'interaisserai serai d'avoir un retour sur la qualité de l'optique de l'infocus.
Je sai déja que celle du planar est très bien mais lui ne semble pas être DC4
HD8200 vs. InFocus IN83
One might consider the HD8200 to be sort of a "poor man's IN83", in that both are DLP's with really good color handling, but the HD8200 simply isn't dramatically less expensive than the InFocus. I expect that from a street price standpoint, the pricing difference at this time, is probably less than $1000.
Where the two are perhaps closest, is in overall color performance. The HD8200 is extremely good, but the IN83 is simply better. Of the 25 projectors considered in our recent Comparison, the IN83 produced the best skin tones of any. The HD8200 may do a really good job, but it only comes close.
Where the HD8200 has the advantage is in black level performance. Despite the IN83's use of a Darkchip4 DLP chip, compared to the HD8200's Darkchip3, the IN83 lacks a dynamic iris, and you can see the difference in black level performance. That's a particularly attractive advantage for the Optoma.
Brightness, on the other hand, is "all InFocus" Consider the substantial differences: In best mode, the Optoma's very respectable 525 lumens is easily trumped by the InFocus'es "Best In Class" 787 measured lumens. It gets even more significant when comparing brightest modes where the HD8200's 660 lumens pale in comparison to the IN83 projector's twice as bright 1382 lumens. Want a larger screen? No comparison!
Placement flexibility favors Optoma. It's zoom has that additional range (1.5:1 vs. 1.2:1), but lens shift also comes into play. The Optoma, like the InFocus cannot be rear shelf mounted, but the lens shift does help significantly even with ceiling mounting. The IN83 has a lot of fixed lens shift, requiring it to be placed well above the top of your screen. This is a huge problem for anyone wanting a larger screen but not having fairly high ceilings in their theater. Let's say you have room for a 120" diagonal screen, but an 8 foot ceiling height. The IN83 just won't work in that situation. The Optoma might not work out well in that situation either (but that would be due to lumens, not placement issues).
Overall, despite the lower price of the Optoma (and better black levels), I strongly favor the IN83 (if it will place in your room) for its almost flawless color, and extremely bright image.
PD8150 vs. InFocus IN83
These are two excellent projectors. Both are sold only through local dealers. The InFocus has a strong advantage in terms of brightness, so will be favored by those with larger screens. In terms of natural color, I have to give the InFocus the slightest advantage, but we are talking close.
On the other hand, the PD8150 seems to have a small advantage in black level performance. In addition to that, the Planar is definitely more flexible in terms of placement, with more lens zoom range, as well as offering an optional shorter throw zoom. Vertical and horizontal lens shift is another big factor in placement, and the Planar has them, the InFocus does not. Both have two year warranties.
riri2b a écrit:Merci beaucoup Richard pour toutes tes recherches j'y voi un peu plus clair![]()
Ma decision commence serieusement à pencher du côté du planar(la puce DC4 me gêne un peu quant même
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riri2b a écrit:Richard tu a été plus rapide que moi pour répondre sur le traitement video, je pense la même chose que toi... ce n'ai plus très important aujourd'huis
Mais ce qui m'interaisserai serai d'avoir un retour sur la qualité de l'optique de l'infocus.
Je sai déja que celle du planar est très bien mais lui ne semble pas être DC4
invite45 a écrit:
salut riri ,tu sais un dc3 sur un planar est capable d'afficher un noir de la trempe d'un 750pas aussi noir certes mais pas trés loin c'est sur j'ai vu les deux calibrés
donc après faut voir aussi comment est exploité la puce
Richard Lemesle a écrit:riri2b a écrit:Richard tu a été plus rapide que moi pour répondre sur le traitement video, je pense la même chose que toi... ce n'ai plus très important aujourd'huis
Mais ce qui m'interaisserai serai d'avoir un retour sur la qualité de l'optique de l'infocus.
Je sai déja que celle du planar est très bien mais lui ne semble pas être DC4
Es-tu allé voir les tests de Art sur projector reviews ?HD8200 vs. InFocus IN83
One might consider the HD8200 to be sort of a "poor man's IN83", in that both are DLP's with really good color handling, but the HD8200 simply isn't dramatically less expensive than the InFocus. I expect that from a street price standpoint, the pricing difference at this time, is probably less than $1000.
Where the two are perhaps closest, is in overall color performance. The HD8200 is extremely good, but the IN83 is simply better. Of the 25 projectors considered in our recent Comparison, the IN83 produced the best skin tones of any. The HD8200 may do a really good job, but it only comes close.
Where the HD8200 has the advantage is in black level performance. Despite the IN83's use of a Darkchip4 DLP chip, compared to the HD8200's Darkchip3, the IN83 lacks a dynamic iris, and you can see the difference in black level performance. That's a particularly attractive advantage for the Optoma.
Brightness, on the other hand, is "all InFocus" Consider the substantial differences: In best mode, the Optoma's very respectable 525 lumens is easily trumped by the InFocus'es "Best In Class" 787 measured lumens. It gets even more significant when comparing brightest modes where the HD8200's 660 lumens pale in comparison to the IN83 projector's twice as bright 1382 lumens. Want a larger screen? No comparison!
Richard Lemesle a écrit:riri2b a écrit:Richard tu a été plus rapide que moi pour répondre sur le traitement video, je pense la même chose que toi... ce n'ai plus très important aujourd'huis
Mais ce qui m'interaisserai serai d'avoir un retour sur la qualité de l'optique de l'infocus.
Je sai déja que celle du planar est très bien mais lui ne semble pas être DC4
Es-tu allé voir les tests de Art sur projector reviews ?HD8200 vs. InFocus IN83
One might consider the HD8200 to be sort of a "poor man's IN83", in that both are DLP's with really good color handling, but the HD8200 simply isn't dramatically less expensive than the InFocus. I expect that from a street price standpoint, the pricing difference at this time, is probably less than $1000.
Where the two are perhaps closest, is in overall color performance. The HD8200 is extremely good, but the IN83 is simply better. Of the 25 projectors considered in our recent Comparison, the IN83 produced the best skin tones of any. The HD8200 may do a really good job, but it only comes close.
Where the HD8200 has the advantage is in black level performance. Despite the IN83's use of a Darkchip4 DLP chip, compared to the HD8200's Darkchip3, the IN83 lacks a dynamic iris, and you can see the difference in black level performance. That's a particularly attractive advantage for the Optoma.
Brightness, on the other hand, is "all InFocus" Consider the substantial differences: In best mode, the Optoma's very respectable 525 lumens is easily trumped by the InFocus'es "Best In Class" 787 measured lumens. It gets even more significant when comparing brightest modes where the HD8200's 660 lumens pale in comparison to the IN83 projector's twice as bright 1382 lumens. Want a larger screen? No comparison!
Placement flexibility favors Optoma. It's zoom has that additional range (1.5:1 vs. 1.2:1), but lens shift also comes into play. The Optoma, like the InFocus cannot be rear shelf mounted, but the lens shift does help significantly even with ceiling mounting. The IN83 has a lot of fixed lens shift, requiring it to be placed well above the top of your screen. This is a huge problem for anyone wanting a larger screen but not having fairly high ceilings in their theater. Let's say you have room for a 120" diagonal screen, but an 8 foot ceiling height. The IN83 just won't work in that situation. The Optoma might not work out well in that situation either (but that would be due to lumens, not placement issues).
Overall, despite the lower price of the Optoma (and better black levels), I strongly favor the IN83 (if it will place in your room) for its almost flawless color, and extremely bright image.
Avantages IN83 : Très grande luminosité et rendu des couleurs excellent (l'Optoma est très proche, mais le Infocus est meilleur)
Avantages Optoma : Placement, Prix, Meilleur niveau de noir (iris dynamique vs iris statique sur le Infocus)PD8150 vs. InFocus IN83
These are two excellent projectors. Both are sold only through local dealers. The InFocus has a strong advantage in terms of brightness, so will be favored by those with larger screens. In terms of natural color, I have to give the InFocus the slightest advantage, but we are talking close.
On the other hand, the PD8150 seems to have a small advantage in black level performance. In addition to that, the Planar is definitely more flexible in terms of placement, with more lens zoom range, as well as offering an optional shorter throw zoom. Vertical and horizontal lens shift is another big factor in placement, and the Planar has them, the InFocus does not. Both have two year warranties.
Avantages IN83 : Très grande luminosité et léger avantage sur le rendu des couleurs
Avantages Planar : Placement, Prix, Meilleur niveau de noir (iris dynamique vs iris statique sur le Infocus)
A lire ces mini-comparatifs, ces 3 projecteurs ne sont pas si éloignés que ça les uns des autres en terme de rendu à l'écran...
Si besoin d'une très grande luminosité, le Infocus est le plus adapté (mais dans quel cas as-t-on besoin d'une telle luminosité ? Sur 3m de base, l'Optoma en mode luminosité basse est suffisant chez moi...)
Si accro à l'exactitude colorimétrique, le Infocus est le meilleur (mais ce n'est pas le jour et la nuit loin de là avec les deux autres)
Par contre, côté placement, le Planar et l'Optoma sont largement devant, de même que côté niveau de noir. Ce n'est pas dit au dessus, mais je pense que c'est également le cas côté niveau de bruit.
Ensuite entre le Planar et l'Optoma a mon sens :
Avantages Planar : Meilleur iris dynamique, meilleur optique
Avantages Optoma : meilleur rapport qualité/prix, mode "Pure motion" réalisant de l'interpolation de trame et ammenant un effet 3D saisissant sur les films d'animation.
Richard.
Vous y croyez vous ? http://www.misco.de/productinformation. ... liate=2037
Je leur ai envoyé un mail pour confirmation et il m'ont répondu que c'était bien l'IN83 à 1357,67 euros!
Malheureusement, il ne l'ont plus en stock ...en ce moment.
C'est d'autant plus étrange, c'est qu'ils vendent aussi l'Infocus X10 à plus de 1400 euros....
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